Ch'marr ([info]chmarr) wrote in [info]vcl,

Sweden site shutdown

Linkoping University, our gracious host in Sweden that has been providing the bandwidth for our Sweden, and master, site for 6 years has just asked us to remove all the 'objectionable' content from our server there, or to simply shut down the site. Unfortunately, politics, and the public appearance of LIU, comes into play here.

Given that finding and suppressing all the 'objectionable material' would be a mammoth task and, more importantly, is against the very purpose of the VCL, we have decided to simply shut down the Sweden site within the next day or so, and seek alternate hosting.

This is very unfortunate, but we definitely thank LIU, and the ctrl-c computer club, for their assistance and generosity in providing VCL a home for the past 6 years.

So... what now? Here's our current plan of attack:

- Tonight we will be redirecting all artist directory queries to the US site. The upload facilities and vcl forum will remain on the Sweden site.

- Once that's done, I'll work on moving the artist upload tools, and our own administration tools, to the US site, and, once working, redirect queries sent to the Sweden site to the US site instead. That will effectively make the US site the 'master'.

- I'll be seeking alternate mirror opportunities (If you've got a T1 to spare, write us!) I did want to wait until I had fixed the mirroring code, since it's very inefficient at the moment, but... we can't wait now :) I'll also be talking to the existing US site provider to see if I can get a bandwidth allotment increase on the existing machine, or simply buy a new machine, there.

Until I get another mirror running, the US site will be slow, since we're already hitting our monthly bandwidth allotment. I've put in traffic control, since the overage charges are expensive.


So... I hope folk can bare with us while we make our move. Getting free bandwidth from LIU was fantastic, but wasn't meant to last forever. Thank you, LIU.

Friday evening (PST) UPDATE: After a couple of failed experiments using the Coral network, we've got a second machine running at the US site. Instead of a being another mirror, it's been configured as a cache-proxy, and the first US site routes all images and thumbnails that appear on the New* pages through the 2nd machine instead. This has improved the speed at the US site markedly. So... the heat's off for a little while, and I'll spend the time transferring over the database functions from the sweden to the US site. Ie, artists will upload directly to the US, rather than the silly thing we have going now.

Sunday Evening Update: Seems that the Sweden site was talking up a LOT of workload... the addition of a second machine at the US site (just to get its bandwidth chunk, since they don't sell the bandwidth by itself) wasn't enough. I've ordered yet another server, and I'll configure both the 2nd and 3rd servers as a distributed delivery system for ALL the VCL content. Leaving the 1st machine to deliver just the HTML pages. And... that OUGHT to do it. That'll be a total of 9Mbits/sec, or 3TBytes/month. Holy crap!

Once we get a mirror network going again (and that will take a bit of doing - noone seems to have spare T2s (6Mbits/sec) lying around - we can decide to shut down one or both of the additional servers. (managed.com are quite cool in that regard)


Again, thank you all for your patience and support.

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[info]bearblue

January 27 2005, 02:45:29 UTC 7 years ago

Oh man! That is a huge job. Good thoughts in your direction!

[info]strredwolf

January 27 2005, 03:41:26 UTC 7 years ago

Good luck, Ch'marr, and Enstein's speed. I've dropped a news report to Flayrah and let a few artists on MZDM know too.

[info]neko2

January 27 2005, 03:49:17 UTC 7 years ago

Do another donation drive.
Possibly do a membership package that allows for more uploads and more forum access? I know I'd pay $35 a year for something like that and I bet a lot of others would be willing to as well.

A great example (forum wise) is a knife collecting forum I go to at bladeforums.com. They have basic, gold, platinum, and knifemaker/dealer memberships that give specific benefits at a certain yearly price. It seems to work very well for them and they get alot of traffic on the forum.

Good luck.

[info]razerz

January 27 2005, 04:34:51 UTC 7 years ago

Yeah what he said, maybe a sort of paid membership with some added bonuses/whatever would be cool, although i dont use the forums or upload toooooo much...
Speaking of that ill lay off uploading for the next weekish.

[info]neko2

January 27 2005, 04:46:41 UTC 7 years ago

Even if it's mostly "for show" I think a lot of folks would buy into the idea of getting something for their donation. I paid for both a livejournal and deviant account to end up doing absolutely nothing with them that i couldn't have for free...

Oh and I'll go easy on uploading too. My breakneck pace of 1 every 6mo- year or so might overwhelm =P

[info]razerz

January 27 2005, 04:54:05 UTC 7 years ago

You are now up to 1pic every six months? awesome! im glad things are picking up X3

[info]chmarr

January 27 2005, 05:48:53 UTC 7 years ago

Another donation drive is definately a 'go'. In fact, I'm really slack for having it lapsed for so long.

But, I really want to avoid 'charging for extra features'. That effectively turns VCL into a business, puts a bunch of extra requirements on us, requires a bunch more work to manage, will eventually require more staff to be 'hired' and will start resulting in inconsistent application of our policies. (Sound familiar to anyone?)

In other words, it's something to be avoided if at all possible. If I can get stuff from donations and other little things, without requiring it from people to use any VCL features, the VCL will be better off.

[info]blue_panther

January 27 2005, 07:27:44 UTC 7 years ago

What a very inconvenient development...

Good luck and all the best...

[info]pegla

January 27 2005, 08:24:06 UTC 7 years ago

I wish all the best with this huge ordeal. All the best Mr.Spottycat!

[info]hbrika

January 27 2005, 14:44:42 UTC 7 years ago

Best of luck on the herculean task, I so wish that I had a place for you.

Now that would be fun

PS> Thanks for providing a home for artists to put furry art up ^^

[info]strredwolf

January 27 2005, 17:18:23 UTC 7 years ago

Oh, Ch'marr? Have you considered proxying some of the pictures (most notabily the thumbnails) through the Coral proxy network? I think distributing them and the pages themselves may help the load. The URL for it is here:

http://www.scs.cs.nyu.edu/coral/

And to prime the pump, so to speak:

http://us.vclart.net.nyud.net:8090/vcl/

[info]chmarr

January 27 2005, 17:38:21 UTC 7 years ago

I'll certainly have a look at it. However, the first time I clicked the link it came back with an error... so... this may not be as reliable as I'd like. Will continue to investigate.

[info]chmarr

January 29 2005, 06:01:08 UTC 7 years ago

Coral network worked fairly well for several folk, and didn't work at all for others. I've put in a 'try out coral network' link on the new index pages (New, New-Sketches, New-Artist) instead of forcing queries to go through there.

But... I've just installed a second server at the US site, and using it as a caching proxy. Has sped things up considerably, so the hottest heat is off for the moment.

[info]chrissawyer

January 27 2005, 18:14:18 UTC 7 years ago

I hope the change over goes ok!

Thanks for all you guy's work Chris. :)

[info]chmarr

January 29 2005, 06:01:51 UTC 7 years ago

Thank you, all, for your support!

[info]wesha

February 3 2005, 14:06:20 UTC 7 years ago

Can you set up Paypal and/or Amazon link for donations, please?

[info]chmarr

February 3 2005, 16:18:41 UTC 7 years ago

Follow the 'Donate' link on VCL's main page :)

http://vclart.net/vcl/donate.html

[info]perigon

February 26 2005, 20:55:12 UTC 7 years ago

On the matter of donations, you could add some small perks to those who donate. Maybe a special donator's badge or somthing on the forum, things like that. Nothing that could be considered a feature, just somthing to show off. A lot of people like stuff like that from what I've seen in other communities.

[info]chmarr

March 1 2005, 05:41:41 UTC 7 years ago

It's a good idea. I don't have any infrustructure in place to handle that right now, but I'll add it to the wish list
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